This week’s topic:
Today we hear from Harvard’s Chis Stanton as well as an update from our new organization work stream groups.
Chat room transcript:
00:14:18 Dyan Finkhousen: Welcome @Orrin!!
00:14:19 Gretta Corporaal: Hi everyone!
00:14:47 Mafé Rabino: Warm Greetings Everyone!!!
00:15:03 Dyan Finkhousen: Hi @Mary Mellino!!
00:15:33 Steve Rader: Still 90+ degree weather in Houston
00:15:47 Dyan Finkhousen: Sheesh that’s hot @Steve!
00:16:15 Steve Rader: Shout out to SPARLE PONY
00:16:24 John Matthews: Hello all!
00:16:30 Dyan Finkhousen: Hey @Sparle!!
00:16:35 Steve Rader: SPARKLE
00:16:47 Dyan Finkhousen: Hah!
00:17:35 SPARKLE PONY: Thats a transformer right?
00:27:13 Todd Brous: https://lish.harvard.edu/files/lish/files/lish_annual_report_2020.pdf?m=1597780235
00:27:39 Jeff Doi: page 11
00:28:35 andyat6prog: If you are looking at the ‘run the world’ software for matchmaking pls test it on this group first before a conference … We struggled with it on a clients event
00:28:56 Tom Cooke: Washington Post had an article yesterday covering Darren Murph and Head of Remote Work job titles showing up now https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/09/09/head-of-remote-work-jobs/
00:29:34 Balaji: if Biden wins. we go back. if not, we will continue to WFH.
00:29:51 Gavin McClafferty: @Balaji – interesting.
00:30:03 Chuck Hamilton: Great book for this team https://www.amazon.ca/Humanocracy-Creating-Organizations-Amazing-People/dp/1633696022
00:30:08 San Rahi: We’re in the interesting position of building out our new headquarters while also having everyone WFH. Needless to say, lots of design review going on.
00:30:31 Balaji: this pandemic is some science, some politics and some economics.
00:30:37 Dyan Finkhousen: @Balaji – agree
00:30:41 Gretta Corporaal: Nice graphics!
00:30:46 Christine Morton: and a lot of behavioural economics
00:31:18 Steve Rader: I’m really hoping that this starts to have a stimulus effect on reviving rural/small towns (and pushes them to get connected)… lots of great opportunities their
00:31:20 Steve Rader: there
00:31:41 Gavin McClafferty: @Chris – it’s interesting to see how some companies have said that they will review salaries if employees intend to work remotely long term.
00:31:48 Dyan Finkhousen: @Steve – agreed, and working on it!
00:32:12 Christine Morton: we’re seeing that in London, Steve – people are moving out. They’re calling this an “extinction level event” for London
00:32:32 Steve Rader: @christine wow!
00:33:14 Janice Stevenor Dale: City of LA marketing folks are on the defense to attempt to stem the tide of exodus
00:33:53 Steve Rader: I had an interesting conversation with some new efforts to boost use of regional airports that might help build a new, more robust mesh of smaller cities…
00:33:54 Chuck Hamilton: Canada set a record in House sales in July. 46% year over year shift, with people choosing new more remote locations because they can
00:33:55 Erik Stettler: Cities will play a similar role to central offices – still very relevant but more for the specific flow of those key moments that require in-person collaboration. This will cause some companies and people to leave, but open the door to many others to use them as a key focal point as part of their flow of people and ideas.
00:33:55 Gavin McClafferty: @Steve @Christine – the property market in the Scottish Highlands is booming. There was a property which had sat on the market for over 2 years had 2 offers within days of the market reopening.
00:34:24 Orrin Klopper: https://www.visualcapitalist.com/how-people-and-companies-feel-about-working-remotely/
00:34:30 Christine Morton: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/07/15/death-commuter-extinction-level-event-london/
00:34:47 Eva Missling: I heard that e.g. Prezi made the new policy that after 3 months in a different place the salary will get adjusted to the price level of the area.
00:35:19 Steve Rader: It will be interesting to see if some of the live/work/play development techniques in cities will translate into smaller localities to enable some of this.
00:35:30 Arturo Natella: @Gretta, where can we find the research? I would love to read.
00:35:33 Steve Rader: @Eva. Really!?!
00:36:12 San Rahi: Is this gentrification, just with a broader net?
00:36:24 Dyan Finkhousen: @Eva – would be interesting to see if talent attrition increases as a result
00:36:36 Gavin McClafferty: @Steve – Facebook, Google and several others have confirmed that they will review salaries as their offices in the Bay Area start to empty.
00:36:42 JC Pinheiro: @chris Did that wave of re-location happen before the window for vote registration closed?
00:36:45 Janice Stevenor Dale: the silicon valley movement to Boise has been happening for 20 years
00:36:56 Steve Rader: It will also be interesting to see how urban real estate shifts and gets repurposed as the demand for traditional office suites drops
00:37:17 Steve Rader: Isn’t this meeting one of the best water coolers going?
00:37:48 carin knoop: how do access to good schooling affect migration patterns for skilled workers?
00:37:57 Alex Wente: Upwork’s Chief Economist just released a new study on this: https://www.upwork.com/press/economics/when-work-goes-remote/
00:38:03 Gretta Corporaal: Good question Carin!
00:38:44 Tom Cooke: Tech companies have been talking about how to recreate the water cooler moments https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/08/17/1006604/remote-workers-want-to-recreate-those-watercooler-moments-virtually/
00:38:59 Janice Stevenor Dale: This migration and its long term affects could be a parallel to pre-WWII immigration from Europe…large impact on the arts and architecture ie. Bauhaus, as a case in point
00:39:07 Steve Rader: @Tom… thanks for the link!
00:39:18 Gavin McClafferty: @Chuck – imagine what will happen when 5G is rolled out and people can universally access high speed connectivity. Rural locations will open up!
00:39:31 Christine Morton: we are not all back to offices in London… many many companies are still WFH til next year
00:39:40 San Rahi: @gavin +1
00:39:43 carin knoop: @Tom — love the water cooler idea, we can use it for our summit perhaps
00:41:12 John Matthews: Interesting article on this topic https://thehustle.co/09102020-office-economy/ “long-lived cities undergoing great temporary shock tend to bounce back.”
“Superstar cities like New York and San Francisco have long been criticized for their high cost of living and congestion.
As the remote work shakeout leads more people to flee such cities, there may be an opportunity to bring in a diverse mix of city dwellers to turbocharge the next period of economic dynamism.”
00:41:29 Gavin McClafferty: @San Rahi – great points!!
00:41:53 Tom Cooke: Just wait until Steve and NASA bring forward teleportation
00:42:17 Steve Rader: @Tom… how did you know?
00:42:23 Orrin Klopper: Great question Alan
00:42:26 andyat6prog: @Alan to support Starbucks Costa Coffee and Cafe Neros
00:42:56 sheila mahoney: reed hastings has a mouthful on anti-remote. wsj the other day: https://www.wsj.com/articles/netflixs-reed-hastings-deems-remote-work-a-pure-negative-11599487219?st=vc9ua972g4jqfly
00:43:22 Janice Stevenor Dale: @Chris or creating regionalization of offices
00:43:57 Tom Cooke: Slalom does a great job of regionalizing their offices to keep their consultants closer to home
00:44:03 Janice Stevenor Dale: employers look for attracting the top talent, and freedom of location is a perk
00:44:05 San Rahi: I feel group problem solving is the biggest casualty of WFH
00:44:54 Gavin McClafferty: @San Rahi – all hands on the problem is a big miss.
00:44:58 Steve Rader: I think the real test will be the economics… as competitors start down the path where some go back to offices and others remain remote and start to gain the financial advantage….
00:45:20 Mina Bastawros: we in airbus in the uk are going for a hybrid model; we are spending half of the week in the office while the remaining at home. The days chosen and not forced upon employees. There are talks of making this standard to enable a better work 2 life balance.
00:45:55 Todd Brous: @Steve: +1
00:46:03 Janice Stevenor Dale: @steve, yes, the dinosaurs will die off
00:46:11 Bryan Peña: amen
00:46:33 Erik Stettler: @Steve agreed, and what @Janice said about talent competition with those offering freedom of location will compound that.
00:46:38 Steve Rader: @Janice +1
00:47:52 Gavin McClafferty: @Steve – I think one of the interesting questions that few people are asking around WFH or work from the office is – what era of leadership are we in? Why do we need to work in an office to create trust / high value outcomes?
00:49:17 Bryan Peña: thanks for taking a few moments: https://mbopartners.co1.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_1HXAPxk10Bj6uLX
00:49:41 Tom Cooke: Agree @Gavin and @Steve – hopefully a focus on outcomes will help us with normalizing taskification of work packages
00:50:38 Open Assembly: Working Groups Doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/18YRJdYmNzay1mi8JqgtrnpdcLjJLOtbDcrs5L_jvuLA/edit?usp=sharing
00:50:44 carin knoop: +1 yes managers needed to finally do their work and think about themselves hard and others
00:50:53 carin knoop: and be more vulnerable and empathetic
00:52:04 Orrin Klopper: There is a great research opportunity around the correlation between organizations that allow for remote work and employee engagement. Will organizations that allow for remote work win from a talent attraction perspective.
00:52:08 Steve Rader: I think the baby steps of trusting your employees to work remotely will help in the eventual increased trust in open talent…
00:52:43 Steve Rader: @Orrin… +1
00:52:54 carin knoop: https://www.fastcompany.com/90548691/extremely-transparent-and-incredibly-remote-gitlabs-radical-vision-for-the-future-of-work?partner=feedburner
00:53:07 Open Assembly: +1 San, thanks
00:53:39 Mark Hannant: @Orrin – would be happy to get into a discussion on the engagement issue. Potentially powerful argument if it can be made to stand up
00:53:54 Gretta Corporaal: You may enjoy our Talking about Organizations Podcast episode where we connect key readings on crisis and disaster to understanding how organizations respond to Covid and the sudden shift to remote work: https://www.talkingaboutorganizations.com/64-disasters-and-crisis-management-powley-and-weick/
00:53:58 Orrin Klopper: @Orrin would love that Mark
00:54:28 Steve Rader: Thanks Gretta
00:55:23 Gretta Corporaal: You’re welcome. You may also enjoy the Hudson Bay company where we make the point that remote work is nothing new ;-P
00:55:29 Steve Rader: Growing connectivity, education, tech all support the abundance perspective!
00:55:55 Todd Brous: (I’ve always been a Star Trek fan… but Mad Max was really good too.)
00:56:01 Gretta Corporaal: *episode: https://www.talkingaboutorganizations.com/63-remote-operations-the-hudsons-bay-company/
00:56:02 Gavin McClafferty: @Alastair – interesting slides! I think we live in a time where an abundance of perspective is required. Where ecosystems matter more now than ever.
00:56:36 Balaji: Todd – Sorry Mad Max isn’t fiction. We lived it yesterday.
00:56:49 Todd Brous: @Balaji: Oyyyy!!!!
00:57:05 Tom Cooke: Great mindset to have toward abundance. Competition, conflict and wars have been because of the scarcity mindset. Would be interesting to think about value of competition in an environment of abundance
00:58:17 Steve Rader: @Tom … competition and failure seem to be directly tied with abundance…. Almost all of the entrepreneurs that talk about failure are actually quite successful at the end of the day…
00:58:54 Mary Mellino: I suggest the workstream leads connect in a week or so to review how things align
00:59:09 Open Assembly: @Alistair – What is the next step for narrowing down the 8 problem statements?
00:59:11 Tom Cooke: @Steve – that’s right. It’s the growth mindset that allows for that success
00:59:29 Gavin McClafferty: @Tom – 100% agree. If we can connect the world then there is an opportunity to bring 5.5 billion people who live in poverty into an era of opportunities.
00:59:38 Mark Hannant: Agreed @Mary
01:00:21 Mary Mellino: Is a great book called Abundance that covers this concept more deeply
01:00:24 Mary Mellino: by Peter Diamandis
01:01:11 andyat6prog: Great synopsis @Ashley B
01:01:26 San Rahi: @open we’re looking to ratify our Problem Statement and our Customer Story first, then move to the other areas of the Biz Model Framework
01:01:28 James Wright: I’m with you @Eric! +1000!! We have a very rare opportunity (ney imperative) to spread the ‘facilitation’ love beyond the current cultural, regional, exconomic boundaries / barriers
01:01:32 Steve Rader: Thanks Ashley
01:01:38 Mark Hannant: @Brandon update on Summit?
01:01:55 Open Assembly: New Name: The Center for the Transformation of Work
01:02:30 Open Assembly: @Mark – yes, coming shortly
01:02:42 San Rahi: @Mary agree – Abundance at the heart of the Biz Model can help us create a movement, not just a company
01:02:46 SPARKLE PONY: CTW also stands for Change The World
01:03:19 Balaji: Sparkle ponyman – Love that!
01:04:09 Steve Rader: Will there be a Columbus Day theme?
01:04:34 Steve Rader: Or has it been renamed yet?
01:05:11 Chuck Hamilton: @Steve Columbus Day, ?? Really. We are global 🙂
01:05:56 Steve Rader: @Chuck 🙂
01:06:11 Mary Mellino: @San – Salim Ismail’s book Exponential Organizations prescribes a set of ingredients for unlocking abundance in organizations. Is a consulting arm and freelance community I am aligned that supports this. Happy to share more.
01:06:21 Mary Mellino: open talent is one “ingredient” for unlocking abundance
01:06:36 Mary Mellino: Has the keynote speaker been identified yet?
01:06:37 andyat6prog: If we can get a marketing leaflet ready to start inviting people that would be great
01:07:24 andyat6prog: Linkedin seems a good place to post (and invite people)
01:07:34 andyat6prog: To the event
01:07:47 San Rahi: @Mary yes please
01:07:51 Open Assembly: https://docs.google.com/document/d/16qBf4oMCYQ6bKHud5OsNpRby6hTJt8sK3q5WSMAqBWg/edit?usp=sharing
01:09:11 Steve Rader: We should have a late night meetup for those that want to connect with those on the other side of the globe
01:09:16 Todd Brous: Will the panels be recorded and made available?
01:09:53 Steve Rader: There are some night owls in this group that would attend
01:09:53 Open Assembly: @Todd – Yes, the event will be recorded.
01:09:56 Chuck Hamilton: Can we double up on key themes for global audience?
01:10:00 Todd Brous: 🙂
01:11:51 Todd Brous: Thank you!
01:11:54 Ashley Beaudoin: Thanks everyone! Thank you Brandon !
01:11:56 andyat6prog: Need an IR35 theme for the UK people
01:12:04 sheila mahoney: very exciting!
01:12:26 Alistair Hofert: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1gzVbfE60d7V53CEnreqayiwuYuPdDtcZC0YXIUCueQM/edit?usp=sharing