Welcome to the nerve center of open talent.
Today’s call featured the release of rough draft graphic of the open marketplace on a Mural board and a great discussion about the Center for the Transformation of Work.
Chat room transcript:
00:15:11 Andy Tanyatanaboon: I assume since your here your not going to Marily’s thing right?
00:23:01 Lucas Meyers: *In 2 zooms.. this and Marily’s
00:23:56 Open Assembly: https://www.hbs.edu/managing-the-future-of-work/Documents/Building_The_On-Demand_Workforce.pdf
00:24:21 Alistair: John is surfing instead of working…..love this dimension of thinking…but actually fixes large problems
00:25:31 Chris “Link” Duarte: That’s a great point
00:26:32 carin knoop: @alistair–be nice! he is tracking the next wave in OT!
00:26:54 Open Assembly: https://app.mural.co/t/openassembly9936/m/openassembly9936/1606935834207/7f832ecd6d5425f2d618a5698984900766ea1cf5
00:27:03 Andy Tanyatanaboon: If you were to allowed to be live anywhere, and have your own flexible schedule, would there still be a need for a lot of PTO or Vacation time? curious what your thoughts on this
00:27:38 Steve Rader: @Andy +1
00:28:27 Chris “Link” Duarte: Andy Yes. PTO is still needed because with the expectation that since you are always home- you are always available. We still need PTO to get our work to leave us alone and also the feeling of free when we step away
00:28:56 Chuck Hamilton: Looking to chat with anyone on the team who is interested in discussing how Leadership changes in the era of Open Talent. New tools and support and micro expertise.
00:29:00 Chris “Link” Duarte: What is this white board app again?
00:29:07 Steve Rader: Mural
00:29:09 Open Assembly: https://app.mural.co/t/openassembly9936/m/openassembly9936/1606935834207/7f832ecd6d5425f2d618a5698984900766ea1cf5
00:30:04 San Rahi: @Andy I believe so – I still need space where I don’t need to decide anything
00:30:07 Chris “Link” Duarte: Thank you! Im totally using this for some of my workgroups
00:30:08 Steve Rader: Google also provides a super simple version of a shared whiteboard (Jamboard) that is part of their Suite.
00:30:49 Chris “Link” Duarte: Ive used jamboard too but always looking for cool new tools to engage people on online meetings…some online meetings have become dull
00:30:56 San Rahi: @Chuck – Leadership becomes a Service function?
00:31:42 Janice Stevenor Dale: @Andy, we live this and yes, one still needs down time until traditional schedules, centered around school changes.
00:31:52 Alistair: Where does OA feature in all these competitive platforms?
00:32:35 San Rahi: @Alistair – the Sherpa?
00:32:49 Tom Cooke: GigWage is a growing one to Balaji’s point
00:33:53 Chris “Link” Duarte: Would you be willing to share this slide?
00:33:54 Andy Tanyatanaboon: If a company “trusts” you to manage your own flexible time, couldn’t you just put in time off whenever you see fit vs trying to force it through a PTO or Vacation process? With companies who have switched to “unlimited vacation” they abandon the concept already of fixed time off
00:34:01 Rebecca Benson: @Bryan – agree with the differentiation / classification comment.
00:34:18 James Wright: Here’s another approach of slicing and dicing that I’ve seen work well in the DevOps space – https://digital.ai/periodic-table-of-devops-tools
00:35:21 Terri Gallagher: agreed @Andy, it’s about outcomes and delivery, then take the time you need to refresh and replenish. Bonus: the flexibility is huge attraction strategy.
00:35:41 Barry Matthews: I think it’s a great start and the first one that I’ve seen that summarises all of the platforms in a structured and thoughtful way – as the industry grows it’s going to get even more complex!
00:36:45 Arturo Natella: Through my career coaching work I’ve been turning people to platforms but the one question I get is which one there are so many. Where do I start? I think this is an issue for both supply and demand.
00:36:53 Open Assembly: https://lumapartners.com/content/lumascapes/display-ad-tech-lumascape/
00:37:51 Alistair: Yes, San!
00:37:52 Tom Cooke: Maybe that’s why people go to Amazon because it’s a lot easier going there where they can tap into a marketplace of marketplaces
00:37:54 Open Assembly: https://www.linkedin.com/in/steve-rader-92b7754/
00:37:59 carin knoop: @Arturo–great question, I wonder how corporates answer this question too from the demand side. probably word of mouth?
00:38:35 Open Assembly: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sanrahi/
00:38:56 Steve Rader: I always think of the crowd platform model as being a better way to match needs with solutions in a more efficient way… now with lots of platform options, there is a real opportunity for macro level matching platforms (like the one’s on the left).
00:39:35 Arturo Natella: @ Carin Knoop – word of mouth seems to be the way for now – but I think centralization is needed going forward.
00:39:46 Chris “Link” Duarte: Innovative minds 🙂
00:40:23 Tom Cooke: @Steve – So Deloitte and Kelly are the entry point and they reach into the various platforms based on what need they have?
00:41:09 carin knoop: perhaps we should launch the Yelp of OT platforms! 😉
00:41:12 Open Assembly: https://transformationofwork.org/
00:41:15 Chris “Link” Duarte: This is the hour I look most forward to every week. I am always sad when I have a schedule conflict. I have learned so much, made new friends, and feel as though I have like-minded circles to express myself in. I love this group
00:41:18 Steve Rader: It would be interesting to start documenting the differentiating factors for each platform…
00:42:32 Open Assembly: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffrey-r-davis-37537345/
00:42:38 Alistair: @San – you can’t explain to your mother but you can convince world leaders to buy you in 1 week…
00:44:28 Andy Tanyatanaboon: Perhaps a Magic Quadrant approach of Open talent platforms
00:45:19 Alistair: Based on Stephanie’s question….should we speak about standardisation, accreditation and the linkages to OA to connect the demand and supply side?
00:45:27 San Rahi: @Alistair my mum is harder to bribe
00:45:42 Rich Copsey: Looks to me like there is a platform offering missing which could sit between “ways to access…” and “external platforms” I thought Catalant and Spigit had been looking into that…
00:45:52 Chris “Link” Duarte: Maybe it’s an opportunity to build a “union” between platforms. Are they just all in competition to outdo each other or is there a lot of overlap but using multiple brand names
00:45:53 carin knoop: perhaps we could post the mural and crowdsource input? we could set some criteria — #people on platform #months in operation etc
00:45:57 Jeff Doi: @san, ha!
00:46:12 Janice Stevenor Dale: models and laddering up is a worthy exercise for those who follow
00:46:17 Alistair: @San – your mom is the boss, and I fear her
00:46:28 Steve Rader: One of the big challenges to capturing all for that differentiating info for platforms is that many of the platforms are changing rapidly and always adding new capabilities.
00:47:23 Arthur Ransier: Will CTW provide certs at the layer between Org/MSP, MSP/Platform and Platform/Talent?
00:47:41 Arthur Ransier: (or offer best practices for each layer)
00:47:48 Ashley Beaudoin: +1 Arthur
00:48:34 Open Assembly: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomomalley/
00:48:49 carin knoop: +1 tom
00:48:54 Chris “Link” Duarte: @Arthur good thought. I would imagine that policy minds are needed to create protocols, best practices etc. I think we are still so behind with global models that have varying security measures they must take- or are lacking
00:49:08 Steve Rader: I am still struck by how similar our problem is to the open API/network service model that has been put together over the past 15 years…. Talent or solutions as an API may be an interesting model.
00:49:41 Tom Cooke: +1 Steve
00:49:51 Janice Stevenor Dale: aligning to the corporate structure is a way to move existing…show innovation leaders with flattened structure, others with more traditional structures and those in the middle, and those entrepreneurs who are starting new today
00:49:55 Chris “Link” Duarte: YES Julia!
00:50:04 Steve Rader: I think that the OA community is actually a good example of how emerging community and culture are evolving…
00:50:46 Jamie Elliott: Hi everyone. New here. I manage challenge competitions, mostly in the US but am located in Germany. Excited to meet everyone. Thanks for having me. Impressive stuff.
00:51:06 Steve Rader: Welcome Jamie!
00:51:07 Chris “Link” Duarte: Steve +1. I am actually modeling this community with the creation of the rural thought leaders network. Culture is so important to keep and maintain
00:51:10 Janice Stevenor Dale: We should follow timelines as announced by CDC, as there’s a time for modifications to be considered
00:52:21 Open Assembly: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alistairhofert/
00:56:11 Chuck Hamilton: Note to all, that we welcome folks to our SLACK collaboration space called 4OpenTalent. Just reach out and I’ll add you in
00:56:26 James Wright: 100 percent agree Alistair!
00:58:54 Steve Rader: While I like the idea of accessing the “best in class” talent, I also wonder if we need to find a way to talk about value-based talent that platforms can make available.. where talent may be available for lower cost for freelancers that are still building skills.
00:59:36 Steve Rader: Again…. Just trying to figure out how we amplify the opportunity of those that are trying to upskill
01:00:07 Iman Fadaei: @Steve we built this for student freelancers at beta.crowdskills.com.
01:00:57 San Rahi: @Steve 100% agree – we qualified Best-in-class for that reason i.e. within that class
01:01:08 Erin McDermott: @Steve Or looking at it from the supply side — I encourage freelancers that want to learn new skills to team up with freelancers that are experts in those specific things. The learner takes a lower cut, the teacher takes a higher cut and the demand side seems the same competency level of output work in the end.
01:01:10 Andy Tanyatanaboon: +1 Steve, I think for this to really take off it can’t be just about the best talent but all talent
01:01:45 Todd Brous: @Erin: how realistic is that? Does that actually work?
01:01:57 Todd Brous: @Andy: +1
01:02:00 Erin McDermott: I’ve been able to add on specialties myself!
01:02:44 Steve Rader: @Erin… love the teaming/mentoring model! I would love for all platforms to offer/facilitate that kind of arrangement.
01:03:22 Steve Rader: A community that is constantly upskilling has better odds of retaining their members on the platform while increasing the capabilities of their community. Win-Win
01:03:33 Jeff Davis: Paper is in the open commons – Jeff
01:03:46 Terri Gallagher: to @erin platforms are doing this now with upskilling components; sr. talent training jr. talent then presenting to clients as a training transformation journey.
01:04:11 Terri Gallagher: to @erin…so you are not crazy. 🙂
01:04:37 Erin McDermott: lol thanks @Terri
01:04:50 Alistair: Machine learning brain profiling is a thing….
01:06:06 Open Assembly: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bosche/
01:07:18 Steve Rader: The value of “open”
01:07:30 Steve Rader: “Know when to hold em’
01:08:15 Tom Cooke: I like the extreme sports model. Guys and girls keep pushing each other and has raised the game significantly in a short amount of time
01:09:02 Rebecca Benson: @Erin @Steve, agree. Seems that I am seeing more and more projects primarily needing the tech skills, but have a small nuance of accounting/finance awareness that would lead to collaboration among freelancers
01:10:00 Open Assembly: If anyone new to the group would like to take part in the “work streams” please send email to brandon@open-assembly.com
01:10:03 Steve Rader: @Rebecca very interesting! Would love to learn more
01:10:07 Arthur Ransier: Nice!
01:10:14 San Rahi: Lovely to see you all! Gotta run.
01:11:08 Chuck Hamilton: Merging the Marketing and Education team soon as well. 🙂
01:11:36 Craig Terblanche: The more you give the more you get, be more open…
01:11:37 Steve Rader: As always… great discussion! Thanks John!
01:11:57 Steve Rader: Nobody puts John Healy in a corner
01:12:08 Alex Wente: Lol steve
01:12:19 Stacie Joosten: Lol steve
01:12:29 carin knoop: thank you all!