Thank you for joining this thought-provoking community meetup!
Special thanks to Dr. Lauren Pasquarella Daley for leading the discussion, sharing her insights and creative thinking around how we can bring more innovation to flexible work, how we can better capture work flexibility and maintain it as times change, and the future impact that flexible work will have on women in the workplace.
Flexible work isn’t just for knowledge workers. And, even though access has expanded to other types of workers, we need to continue to think bigger.
It’s time we throw out the old definition of flexible work and come up with a new one – one that speaks to what it’ll look like in five, ten years time.
CHAT TRANSCRIPT
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00:05:36 Lucas Meyers [he\him] lifebase.io: the litany of auto-bots joining Zoom of late mandate host acceptance. 4 otter.io bots per Zoom is no bueno.
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00:13:26 Carin-Isabel Knoop: service in first was HORRID, bryan
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00:14:20 Steve Rader: I’m feeling very ordinary right now
00:15:04 Steve Rader: Great to have you on Jay!
00:15:07 Brandon Dwight / Open Assembly: Reacted to “I’m feeling very old…” with 😃
00:15:37 Michelle Liu: Hey all! It’s been a while since I’ve had a chance to tune in, I can’t be on camera right now but glad to be a part of this community and excited to hear about redefining flexible work today
00:16:09 Carin-Isabel Knoop: Reacted to “I’m feeling very ord…” with 😂
00:16:10 Brandon Dwight / Open Assembly: REMINDER: Drop your relevant company and Linkedin URLs in the chat room. We share the info on our blog!
00:16:18 Lucas Meyers [he\him] lifebase.io: Rader ≠ Ordinary
00:16:18 Jay Makarov: https://www.linkedin.com/in/smaksmak/
00:16:33 Brandon Dwight / Open Assembly: Reacted to “Rader ≠ Ordinary” with 🙌
00:16:36 Steve Rader: Reacted to “Rader ≠ Ordinary” with 😃
00:16:56 Steve Rader: Bob is awesome! You should all get to know him!
00:18:21 Bob Newhouse: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bobnewhousehouston/
00:18:29 Dan Curran: https://www.linkedin.com/in/currandan/
00:18:34 Matt Neal: Another great group…these calls are the best. Please connect with me here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthewjneal/ and check out the podcast from BillionMinds https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/making-work-work/id1557524974
00:18:35 Bob Newhouse: Happy to connect via LinkedIn. Bob
00:18:49 Bob Newhouse: Reacted to “Bob is awesome! You…” with 😂
00:18:51 Brandon Dwight / Open Assembly: Reacted to “Another great group….” with 👍
00:20:11 Laron Sequeira: https://www.linkedin.com/in/laron-sequeira/
00:20:19 Laron Sequeira: www.supportwave.com
00:21:44 Glen Hodgson: Cool drumkit there too, Matt!
00:21:47 Carin-Isabel Knoop: great podcast — was fun to be part of it at the first iteration!
00:21:53 Carin-Isabel Knoop: Reacted to “Cool drumkit there t…” with 🦚
00:21:58 Rich Wilson: Webinar here: https://www.linkedin.com/events/integratinglargelanguagemodels-7077950213285392385/
00:23:39 Brandon Dwight / Open Assembly: Dr. Lauren Pasquarella Daley, PhD: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lauren-pasquarella-daley/
00:23:41 Lucas Meyers [he\him] lifebase.io: Reacted to “Cool drumkit there t…” with 🥁
00:29:38 Lucas Meyers [he\him] lifebase.io: [using the image of Softbank’s Pepper the Robot in the deck isn’t lost on this group…]
00:30:02 Bob Newhouse: Reacted to “[using the image of …” with 😯
00:30:56 Ben Ross: Reacted to “[using the image of …” with 🧠
00:40:45 Matt Neal: I have a thought/theory on why CEOs want people back in the office which I haven’t really heard discussed…would love to hear this group’s thoughts.
00:41:50 Kathy Hardy: Replying to “I have a thought/the…” I recently spoke to a group of CEO’s in the staffing industry, and they needed people back in the office more often to help mentor the news teammates informally
00:42:05 Kathy Hardy: Replying to “I have a thought/the…” new teammates
00:43:04 Link: I would also add that champions must believe in both the cause/mission of the company and they must trust and believe in the leadership. A champion will be self motivated to show up, get involved and give ideas when they feel that the mission and leadership align with their values. Champions are mission driven first and fame second
00:43:38 Brian Watson: Reacted to “I would also add tha…” with 👍
00:43:45 John Healy: Replying to “I have a thought/the…” mentoring can happen without an “office”….
00:43:48 Steve Rader: It seems like a lot of the time the dialogue around remote/onsite and full-time/part-time turns into a binary discussion rather than a spectrum.
00:43:58 Allison Ryder: Reacted to “It seems like a lot …” with 👍
00:44:12 Mickey Pelletier (CWM Strategies): Reacted to “It seems like a lot …” with 👍
00:44:16 Carin-Isabel Knoop: odds are that the leader also likes adulation and charming people — the toolbox of narcissists
00:44:35 Brian Watson: Replying to “I have a thought/the…” Yeah, hard to do a “drop in” and have more informal opportunities to learn/mentor
00:44:51 John Healy: Reacted to “odds are that the le…” with 👍
00:45:02 Lucas Meyers [he\him] lifebase.io: Reacted to “I would also add tha…” with 👍
00:45:12 Lucas Meyers [he\him] lifebase.io: Reacted to “It seems like a lot …” with 👍
00:45:36 Mickey Pelletier (CWM Strategies): Reacted to “odds are that the le…” with 👍
00:45:45 Lucas Meyers [he\him] lifebase.io: Replying to “odds are that the le…” “toolbox of narcissists” – saved.
00:45:59 Ben Ross: Reacted to “odds are that the le…” with 👍🏽
00:46:03 Brandon Dwight / Open Assembly: From a recent Andreessen Horowitz (a16z) podcast: “The remote revolution opened a lot of people’s eyes…we’ve gotten multiple data points to suggest that companies that are operating a remote first policy typically have a significant advantage against companies that do not.” https://a16z.simplecast.com/episodes/inside-the-2023-talent-tsunami-layoffs-remote-work-more-F3ADhBYf
00:46:03 Lorraine Charles, Na’amal: Reacted to ““toolbox of narcissi…” with 😃
00:46:05 Bob Newhouse: Replying to “It seems like a lot …”
Agree and that’s one of the aspects we were digging into today in the roundtable. Part of the discussion is the culture and expectation around respecting boundaries for off-time and away-time. Relieving the expectation that you’ll join a call from you kid’s pediatrician’s waiting room
00:46:11 Lorraine Charles, Na’amal: Reacted to “odds are that the le…” with 👍
00:46:17 Link: Reacted to “odds are that the le…” with 👍
00:46:58 Mickey Pelletier (CWM Strategies): Reacted to “From a recent Andree…” with 👍
00:47:51 Steve Rader: Reacted to “Agree and that’s one…” with 👍
00:49:06 Carin-Isabel Knoop: Replying to “It seems like a lot …”
but that also means that employees should not be folding laundry or washing dishes while ‘in a meeting”!
00:49:33 Ben Ross: Purpose is the key point here – great point Kathy
00:50:07 Ben Ross: The old way of communication is context switch heavy – you always pay a penalty
00:50:22 Brian Watson: Replying to “It seems like a lot …”
@Carin-Isabel Knoop though I have found that I listen more while folding laundry. I can multitask a physical task with a mental task. Much better than trying to answer emails or slack while in a meeting
00:50:34 Jay Makarov: Reacted to “It seems like a lot …” with 👍
00:50:39 Mickey Pelletier (CWM Strategies): That CEO is still disrupting, whether you’re in person or remote, you still have to take time away from whatever you’re doing – scheduled or impromptu.
00:50:47 Jay Makarov: Reacted to “From a recent Andree…” with 👍
00:50:49 Matt Neal: Replying to “It seems like a lot …”
why do I care if they’re folding the laundry as long as the “work” is getting done…
00:51:11 Jay Makarov: Reacted to “Purpose is the key p…” with 👍
00:51:56 Steve Rader: I think that the use of “chat” and managers taking initiative to “drop in” on teams/zoom can really mitigate/replace many of the perceived “in person only” interactions.
00:52:08 Ben Ross: Reacted to “I think that the use…” with 👍🏽
00:52:13 John Healy: Reacted to “I think that the use…” with 👍
00:52:31 Jay Makarov: Reacted to “I think that the use…” with 👍
00:52:36 Carin-Isabel Knoop: Replying to “It seems like a lot …”
the tension i hear and feel is that employees want to unitask in their personal lives and bosses should respect that but multi task at work. for some folks who prefer activity i can see what you all mean for sure…
00:52:49 Matt Neal: Reacted to “the tension i hear a…” with 👍
00:53:15 Bob Pulver: Reacted to “I would also add tha…” with 👍
00:53:22 Jay Makarov: Reacted to “I have a thought/the…” with 👍
00:53:22 Steve Rader: Watercooler interactions were real… they were just way less often than people want to admit…. It is possible to create interactions (like the breakout rooms in THIS meeting) where you can get those kinds of interactions MORE often.
00:53:30 Barb Hansen: Replying to “I have a thought/t…”
I have been a product leader in the tech startup space for +20 years and I have worked both in-office and remotely. Interacting with remote staff as a leader is a learned skill and muscle that needs to be trained. Being open to build and then train that “remote leadershiip muscle” seems to be outside of what many leaders want to do. It would be interesting to see what are the demographic differences between leaders who are open to that change and those who aren’t.
00:53:33 Dr. Lauren Pasquarella Daley (she/her): And we’ve not even touched on the biases that drive career opportunities for women and people from marginalized identities when it comes to onsite and hybrid work.
00:53:44 Link: CEOs show up. They care about the little things as well as the big things that drive revenue. They care about community and culture among their organization and they recognize that “how” they show up speaks volumes to the rest of the team. It’s then that champions come out to lead the mission…it goes back to the reasons why having champions is important. CEOs are only as good as their team
00:53:45 Carin-Isabel Knoop: Replying to “It seems like a lot …”
i dont like being on video and always offer people to be off video if that makes them feel better and they can multi task without pretending to be paying attention. big fan of generally reducing stress.
00:53:52 Ben Ross: Reacted to “And we’ve not even t…” with 🧠
00:54:03 Carin-Isabel Knoop: Reacted to “CEOs show up. They c…” with 👍🏻
00:54:07 Jay Makarov: Reacted to “Watercooler interact…” with 🔥
00:54:13 Brian Watson: Reacted to “I have been a produc…” with ❤️
00:54:15 Brandon Dwight / Open Assembly: Networked Organization: https://open-assembly.com/reports/networked-organization
00:54:16 Link: Reacted to “It seems like a lot …” with 👍
00:54:19 Link: Reacted to “It seems like a lot …” with ❤️
00:54:23 Barb Hansen: Reacted to “It seems like a lo…” with 👍
00:54:26 Jay Makarov: Reacted to “And we’ve not even t…” with 👍
00:54:35 Kathy Hardy: Replying to “I think that the use…”
I don’t disagree with any of these points. I still believe we need to start with understanding where the old fashion CEO’s are, and then lead them to where they need to be!😄
00:54:40 Matt Neal: Reacted to “i dont like being on…” with 👍
00:54:53 Jay Makarov: Reacted to “CEOs show up. They c…” with 👍🏻
00:55:18 Lorraine Charles, Na’amal: Replying to “I think that the use…”
Old fashion CEOs will be extinct soon 🙂
00:55:25 Laron Sequeira: Great meeting everyone, looking forward to the next one
00:55:28 Mickey Pelletier (CWM Strategies): Reacted to “Old fashion CEOs wil…” with 👍
00:55:39 Jay Makarov: Reacted to “Great meeting everyo…” with 🙌
00:55:50 Ashley, UntapSocial: “What got us here won’t keep us here” 😂
00:56:10 Barb Hansen: Reacted to ““What got us here…” with 👏
00:56:31 Kathy Hardy: Replying to “I think that the use…”
so true!
00:56:43 Link: Thank you John H
00:58:01 Brandon Dwight / Open Assembly: How do Open Talent platforms play a role in this?
00:58:48 Ben Ross: As more CEOs come from Product Management backgrounds, I think we’ll see less culture by osmosis and more culture by design
00:58:58 Barb Hansen: Reacted to “And we’ve not eve…” with 👍
00:59:05 John Healy: Open Talent Platforms democratize access to opportunity…which in many cases means remote access (using the wonderful collaboration tools we have) is core!
00:59:29 John Healy: Reacted to “As more CEOs come fr…” with 👍
00:59:38 Steve Rader: I think that in 20 years, we’ll look back on the old model and wonder how such low efficiencies/productivities even made business viable …. The emerging models has such potential for leveraging human labor…
01:00:49 Steve Rader: Great meeting all… must drop for my next meeting. Cheers!
01:01:08 Lucas Meyers [he\him] lifebase.io: re: tools and workforce.. recent quote that hit hard, “AI won’t replace humans. Humans with AI will replace humans without AI.” -Karim Lakhani, HBS Professor
01:01:16 Allison Ryder: Reacted to “re: tools and workfo…” with 👍
01:01:17 Ben Ross: Reacted to “re: tools and workfo…” with 👍🏽
01:01:30 John Healy: Reacted to “re: tools and workfo…” with 👍
01:01:34 Brandon Dwight / Open Assembly: Homework for next call. Read this: MBR special issue on AI for customer engagement: Management and Business Review (MBR)
01:01:48 Jay Makarov: Reacted to “Homework for next ca…” with 👍
01:01:52 Matt Neal: Reacted to “re: tools and workfo…” with 👏
THANK YOU TO ALL WHO JOINED!!!
